r/news • u/TiltedWit • 12d ago
Politics - removed Elon Musk says he has formed a new U.S. political party, the ‘America Party’
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/business/money-report/elon-musk-says-he-has-formed-a-new-u-s-political-party-the-america-party/3878757/[removed] — view removed post
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u/Bloated_Hamster 12d ago
Why tf didn't he call it the X party? At least keep the shitty branding consistent.
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u/891162 12d ago
And have a Shiba Doge as the official animal.
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u/cleantoe 12d ago
Such presidential. Wow.
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u/Siolear 12d ago
Actually a good tagline, don't give them any ideas
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u/strangebrew420 12d ago
Really any ancient meme that was around in the early 2010s would be on brand for him.
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u/Terribleturtleharm 12d ago
I'm starting a party - "No billionaires party"
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u/Confident-Homework75 12d ago
It says “no billionaireS.” We’re allowed to have one.
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u/Relevant_Contract_76 12d ago
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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u/sleepygeeks 12d ago
he probably tried to, but someone convinced him X was to close to another symbol he likes.
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u/Servichay 12d ago
Ok that makes sense yeah we wouldn't want that.... He should call it the Nazi Party instead
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u/Expensive_Space4097 12d ago
The only X party I want to be a part of is the one where the band is playing…….
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u/3D-Dreams 12d ago
I got $10 bucks on Trump trying to deport him before the end of the month.
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u/SouthTexasCowboy 12d ago
That would be so funny to watch
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u/Saint_The_Stig 12d ago
If we have to live with these idiots in charge, the least they could do is make it entertaining for us as they destroy each other.
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u/candaceelise 12d ago
If they made it a pay per view event(s) we could eliminate the national deficit
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u/swolfington 12d ago
i have no idea what he has, but musk has enough money to maintain a legit paramilitary security detail (if not his own straightup PMC). watching musks security clash with ICE would at least be entertaining to watch from the sideliens of our rapidly devolving dystopian hellscape
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u/ABHOR_pod 12d ago
ICE wouldn't. They're only brave enough to tackle breastfeeding mothers and gardening seniors.
This would be something you'd deploy the USMC for. To arrest a personal enemy.
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u/Corporate-Shill406 12d ago
Yeah but all Elon needs to do to defeat the Marines is throw a handful of crayons off to the side.
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u/kaizencraft 12d ago
He could just buy that gold card. But if they do it anyway, he's never going to get that refund.
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u/tjoe4321510 12d ago
Who collects money for the Gold Card? Is it the government or Trump himself?
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u/ultimate_avacado 12d ago
The government gets the $5 million fee.
Trump gets whatever gets sent under the table via his cryptocurrencies.
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u/FizzyBeverage 12d ago
Can you really deport someone with more liquidity than the Saudi Royal family and a fleet of aircraft? Billionaires don’t really have citizenship or mundane visas and immigration to worry about, they seem to go wherever the hell they want.
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u/Organic-Roof-8311 12d ago
Governments can unilaterally bar people from entry. There’s a slate of celebrities (including Robert Downey Jr) who can’t enter Japan for premieres because of prior criminal history.
Whether Elon could try for an exemption for business dealings, I’m unsure — but the U.S. government would have to grant him entry.
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u/CoeurdAssassin 12d ago
And now there’s Kanye banned from Australia for making a Nazi song
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u/Organic-Roof-8311 12d ago
Man can you imagine if Biden deported Elon as soon as he started giving hundreds of millions to Trump’s election campaign?
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u/Do__Math__Not__Meth 12d ago
Yeah but there’s different layers of rich and Elon is on a completely different layer than someone like RDJ
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u/Namika 12d ago
We tend to think of them as two sides of the same coin, but when push comes to shove, Power > Money
Look to China or Russia, where seemingly invincible oligarchs with billions in assets one day wake up with nothing because they pissed off the wrong person who holds actual power.
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u/3D-Dreams 12d ago
They just had a Russian oil company guy fall out window...they don't even hide it anymore lol
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u/Canisa 12d ago
Can you really deport someone with more liquidity than the Saudi Royal family and a fleet of aircraft?
> Trump tells ICE to deport Elon.
> ICE deports Elon, in chains, to El Salvador
> White House posts ASMR video of Elon getting his head shaved in a concrete box full of MS13 dudes.
> Laws?? Due Process?!? What are they???
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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 12d ago
All trump has to do is seize musk’s property (american corporations, assets, etc). With the scotus on his side, not that it’d stop him if they weren’t, we’ll be able to see what a unitary executive can do, and you bet your ass the rest of the billionaires will probably be scared shitless.
Honestly, now that i think about it, i hope he does try. He might get one, but the rest of the rich will eat him alive once they see the threat he can be.
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u/BraveOthello 12d ago
Or they do just fall in line because appeasement feels safer, even if it isn't.
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u/vibe4it 12d ago
Excellent. The moron vote needs splitting
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u/andrew5500 12d ago
Elon, if you're reading this... splitting the GOP's voter base in perpetuity and going down in history as the man who permanently ratfucked the Republicans out of spite is probably the best way to salvage your legacy after that Nazi salute. It's a no-brainer...
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u/goomyman 12d ago
hes going to primary republicans - republicans fall in line behind anyone with an R. So as long as he runs under the R brand hes fine. I dont think he will split any vote.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 12d ago
He's literally not running anyone under an R banner, that's the whole point here.
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u/tlamy 12d ago
He can't run for president, though, since he's not a natural-born citizen. Unless that's not what you're saying
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u/Ill-Egg4008 12d ago
The thing is why bother being one if you can own one? 🤷🏻♀️
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u/sjogerst 12d ago
Lol give it a year or two more and they'll redefine "natural born" to mean born out of a vagina instead of a CSection or Test tube. It's the level of stupidity I expect.
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u/Neuromangoman 12d ago
Probably unironically true. Turns him from a monster to a clown.
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u/Torrossaur 12d ago
We had our own billionaire dipshit do this in Australia recently and it did exactly this.
He didnt win a single seat but it divided the bigot vote and fucked them both over.
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u/Pacifist_Socialist 12d ago
Yeah it's been a thing in US politics but not for a while on a large scale
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u/CoeurdAssassin 12d ago
Imagine if Kanye actually followed through on running in 2020 (I think he said he was gonna run in 2024 as well)
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u/flamedarkfire 12d ago
He was on my ballot. I was completely pissed.
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u/tjoe4321510 12d ago
The only thing more bizarre than seeing 'Kanye West' on my ballot was seeing 'Donald Trump' on my ballot. I hope Carrot Top runs next time that way I can finally fully accept that I'm living in a simulation.
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u/twistedspin 12d ago
I would need to follow up more on his beliefs but from everything I've seen Carrot Top would likely be a far far better president than either of them.
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u/invincibl_ 12d ago
Can't really split a vote in Australia though, since we have preferential (ranked) voting. I'd say May's election results were a better reflection of our mandatory voting system, where it turns out that these movements are a lot less popular than they think they are.
However, the indirect result is that the Overton Window has shifted right, as it has been doing ever since Howard was PM. I'm glad the country rejected this brand of politics, but we still need to be careful not to fall into that in the future.
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u/xieta 12d ago
Yup. Huge gift to dems if he follows through.
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u/homiej420 12d ago
If he were smart at trying to get back at trump that would be his intention, not to win anything
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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid 12d ago
Honestly. This is probably what he’s doing. Plus they won’t have his “help with computers” this time.
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u/sentrygentry 12d ago
Man do I wish, but this won't split anything. MAGA only loves Elon because Trump decided he needed him. They hated him and his electric cars before and hate him again now that he has fallen out of favor with their Lord and Savior the Apostle Donald.
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u/jadewolf42 12d ago
It won't draw away die-hard maga cultists, for sure. But it might siphon off the tech bros and that breed of moron, perhaps with the libertarian types too. And it doesn't have to pull much to make a difference.
Perot only pulled like 8% pop vote (and zero electoral) in 1996, but it was just enough to fuck over Bob Dole and hand Clinton the reelection win.
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u/Wazula23 12d ago
Founded by a South African.
Writers are getting lazy.
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u/hitsujiTMO 12d ago
Total members, 1 south african
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u/Play-t0h 12d ago
Seriously. Musk can be as rich as he wants to be, but no one is going to follow that drug addicticted Megalomaniac. Money can't buy a new political party that rivals the RNC and DNC.
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u/ttaway420 12d ago
Would be fucking hilarious if what ends up breaking the bipartisan system is Elon Musk tho
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u/MaybeTheDoctor 12d ago
Yes it would, but mathmatically it is quite impossible for a 3rd party to have any seats in congress. The few independent runs on their personality and not on a party. He could split the republican vote, which would throw the elections to democrats.
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u/flumphit 12d ago
Definitely a strong argument for preference voting, a precondition for breaking the duopoly
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u/Cranyx 12d ago
no one is going to follow that drug addicticted Megalomaniac
Sadly he very much has his cult of sycophants
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u/counterweight7 12d ago
You sure? Money can buy a lot.
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u/DodgerWalker 12d ago
See Michael Bloomberg's presidential campaigns in 2020. The guy bought the ads, bought the consultants, the field offices, even got plenty of endorsements from elected officials and others whom he'd funded their campaigns and projects. The dude flamed out on Super Tuesday winning American Samoa and hitting the 15% threshold to just get some delegates in a few states.
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u/Cognitive_Spoon 12d ago
The America Party.
Brought to you by BRICS.
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u/TheShawnP 12d ago
You think that’s lazy? You’ll never be lazier than the guy who invented the word “fireplace.”
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u/ianindy 12d ago
I heard that the toothbrush got named by someone from Kentucky. Otherwise it would be known as the teethbrush...
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u/Tahxeol 12d ago
Genuine question: I know he still has fans, but being detested by the majority from the left, the center and the right, who does he expect to join and support this party?
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u/hitsujiTMO 12d ago
I think he's just hoping to pull enough votes from the republicans to turn heads into get them to listen to him
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u/gatsby712 12d ago
It’s about getting revenge on Trump because he had his little ego hurt. Not really much more to it.
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u/skeetersammer 12d ago
Right. If it happens to benefit the people, that’s pure coincidence.
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u/two_hyun 12d ago
Votes from Republicans to whom? Elon cannot run.
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u/ClickF0rDick 12d ago
Being the richest person on the planet can buy a lot of indirect influence.
At this point one isn't justified not noticing that even if they were living under the proverbial rock lol
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u/thenletskeepdancing 12d ago
He wants to back several politicians as pawns.
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u/DevelopedDevelopment 12d ago
Thats what MAGA did, Trump got a following, and then was able to stand in the way of Republicans who didn't like him taking over. Now if you're not loyal to the party you will get threats.
Considering Musk literally said the US can coup anyone it wants, I wonder if he is actually going to try.
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u/hitsujiTMO 12d ago
I assume he's hoping to have some candidates for the mid terms. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pitch to Joe Rogan and others of a similar stance. There's plenty that play middle but pitch to right wingers that might jump at the chance if there's someone like Elon throwing money at them.
I doubt they will see him as a genuine threat though.
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u/Parody101 12d ago
He has billions of dollars...that's all you need to pull the strings.
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u/grunkage 12d ago
He can fund the campaigns of rightwing primary targets. Anyone that falls out of favor with MAGA by objecting to this stuff might have his support
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u/br0b1wan 12d ago
He's going to throw money at candidates willing to primary Trump or establishment Republikkkans
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u/Bigfamei 12d ago edited 12d ago
He has a AI firm, bot farm, twitter and a broadband network. He can create the support he needs. See if the flies swarm the sugar.
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u/Rugrin 12d ago
Libertarians. That’s who. They still love him and think he’s been done wrong.
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u/cheweychewchew 12d ago
So they're gonna leave the Libertarian Party for him? Ennnnnnnh....
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u/joombaga 12d ago
Libertarians hate the Libertarian Party.
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u/ultimate_avacado 12d ago
Every Libertarian candidate has an element of their plank that all other Libertarians view as a non-starter. There is no consistent party plank. You can have a candidate be a traditional federalist libertarian, but that's a non-starter to the state-centered federalist libertarians or the confederal libertarians.
Also, their national candidates are simply spoiler candidates and have been for decades.
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u/Nghtmare-Moon 12d ago
Bro, blue check marked people live in Elon’s bubble and he can get them to think whatever he wants….
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u/pelagic_seeker 12d ago
I mean, a lot of those people are bots nowadays. Or fake accounts from other countries.
Or people he forced a blue check on.
There will be some, but I think even he forgets how few are genuine worshippers.
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u/FreeNumber49 12d ago
> who does he expect to join and support this party?
The same thing was said about Trump in 2015. Who is going to vote for this idiot? Well, you know what they did? They literally went to a casting agency and hired a bunch of actors. They gave them Trump shirts and signs and told them to stand by an escalator as Trump came down and waved. That actually happened. You know the rest.
This is called the bandwagon effect, and it works. People turned on Fox News and saw this guy they knew from TV and said, he would make a good president. When asked why they thought this, many of them insisted that The Apprentice was real, and that Trump had shown leadership qualities on the show. What they didn’t know or weren’t aware of was that the show was completely fake and scripted.
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u/tompba 12d ago
there's a HUGE difference between taking control of an already established political party(and ALL voters that come within it) and creating one from scratch. The only one that will be crazy to go there are the unhappy cult Maga that will never vote to Democratics.
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u/LiquidAether 12d ago
Trump instantly received 40% of the vote by declaring himself a Republican. Elon's situation is not the same
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u/UniMaximal 12d ago
He'll just buy politicians through PACs like everybody else does... These people honestly aren't very expensive at all for what they offer.
Twitter promotes right-wing content the most as-is, so there's no reason why he wouldn't shift all that over for his own sake.
If not for the drugs making him even more woefully incompetent than usual, he could probably do it.
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u/oneeyedman72 12d ago
One thing the US has proven in recent years, heaps of folk will vote against their own interests if rich white men ask them to.
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u/Nisi-Marie 12d ago
I wrote this in another thread:
Hear me out.
To establish context, Elon is a douche canoe.
However, if anyone has the ability to actually enable change away from the two party system, it is him simply due to his immense fortune, name recognition, and public media channels.
The hard part for him would be to dial back all of his bullshit, and focus it on Platforms that matter, not based on hate or divisiveness. Unfortunately, I question his ability to act like anything other than a toddler having a temper tantrum.
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u/ew73 12d ago
The problem is our electoral system will always gravitate to a two-party system. We've seen 3rd parties rise over the years, and all they end up doing is subsuming or replacing an existing party after a few years and we're back to the two-party dance, though sometimes, the dancers have switched places.
Without reforming the way we run elections, there will never be a viable multi-party system in the US.
One of the first ways to do that is to move to a ranked-choice system in all our elections. Eliminating all versions of "first past the post" allows a more diverse set of voices, and a better way for voters to have their voices heard. To do that at the national level... it will take a lot of political clout.
Maybe Musk could accomplish it. I doubt it. More likely than not, he'll just be another spoiler party like the Green and Libertarian parties are today.
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u/008Zulu 12d ago
Fairly sure there's already a couple 'billionaire-controlled old white man' parties out there.
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u/Awkward_Tie4856 12d ago
But are any of them foreigners from say South Africa?
Didn’t think of that did ya? /s
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u/891162 12d ago
Yes, this brings back memories of Ross Perot.
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u/Medium_Medium 12d ago
I'm a little bit young for the Perot years, but from what I've seen since then I always got the impression that Perot actually used his wealth to advocate for the common man... Being anti-war, anti-lobbyist, pro-universal healthcare, pro-raising taxes on the rich... Didn't he even get on the case of the Big 3 automakers for not being safe enough / putting profit above quality?
Elon's motivations seem much more... Self involved.
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u/artaxs 12d ago
You might be ascribing Ralph Nader's politics to Perot.
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u/sabrenation81 12d ago
Maybe but also maybe not. Perot was a strange egg. He was a budget-obsessed lifelong Republican but also supported gun control, Medicare-for-all (he might have actually been the first to use that term), and was one of the first national politicians in America to vocally support gay rights. In a lot of ways, he'd kind of fit right in with whatever the fuck the current Democratic party is trying to be.
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u/ThomasPlaine 12d ago
Perot talked a good game, but the reality was that he was, and always had been, a right wing reactionary nut, and government contract grifter. Pretty similar to Elon, actually.
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u/SodaPop6548 12d ago
Honestly I think this is great because it will fracture the idiots who are currently a political party.
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u/OriginalUsername30 12d ago
Until he does an RFK and pulls out last moment in favor of Trump
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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 12d ago
Yeah he'll leverage any followers he gets to put pressure on Trump to make a deal that will make him richer
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u/dunedog 12d ago
If there is anything Musk doesn't do, it's pull out.
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u/MaroonIsBestColor 12d ago
The dude doesn’t pull out. He artificially inseminates his victims with his vile seed because his dick is broken.
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u/Luke_Cocksucker 12d ago
Sure, or it’s just another scam. Let’s see them actually get on a ballot somewhere.
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u/LSTmyLife 12d ago
Fuck Elon. No one will forget your role in all of this you fucking pig. 250+ million to get the orange fucker elected, vote tampering and his role with DOGE and crippling our infrastructure while pillagung every minute scrap of data he could.
He's America's most dangerous enemy. Period. We have plenty of problems but this fucker is a big one.
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u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 12d ago
Bingo. Never forget. Elon should be scared to be in public.
Will never forget "nobody is even trying to assasinate Kamala"
Elon deserves prison (he deserves worse than prison).
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u/FillMySoupDumpling 12d ago
40.25 Billion if you roll the purchase of Twitter into all of that.
He used the site to boost messages he personally agreed with and suppressed accounts he didn’t.
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u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns 12d ago
This will go over as well as Andrew Yangs attempt at a 3rd party
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u/XRT28 12d ago
Realistically it'll probably go further since he has way more money to bankroll it and, much much more importantly, the ability to spread his propaganda free of charge directly to people still using his social media
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u/ultimate_avacado 12d ago
Not just people using his social media platform, but every other news outlet uses Twitter as a verified source. Every post that national news quotes includes a "as posted on X (formerly known as Twitter)".
It's rather hilarious (and sad) how mainstream news fueled Twitter's growth to their own demise.
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u/crimsonhues 12d ago
Just as racist as the Republican Party with sole goal to support billionaires. So not that different from the GOP
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u/herminette5 12d ago
Oh great. A South African Nazi creates his own party in our country.
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u/Throwaway__1701 12d ago edited 12d ago
But america already has a Nazi party
Is this the republican version or two women wearing the same dress?
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u/RevolutionNumber5 12d ago
I’m just going to start my own political party! With blackjack! And hookers!
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u/Duke_AllStar 12d ago
Exactly what Americans need, another billionaire telling folks how to vote……
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u/Talonsminty 12d ago
Let's see now:
He can't count on votes from he left due to the whole Nazi thing.
He can't count on votes from MAGA on account of him betraying Donald
He can't count on the rural vote because he's a eco-friendly tech billionaire.
He can't even count on his own people ( the Nazis) because Donald is making their dreams come true
So it's pretty much just urban libertarians that're addicted to Twitter.
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u/zeldamaster702 12d ago
I would argue those “urban libertarians“ were instrumental in getting Trump his wins in the last election, considering a vast majority of them were Gen Z dudebros who think Joe Rogan is the epitome of podcasting excellence and Andrew Tate is the epitome of manliness. Those types of voters tend to only vote to spite people against them. Considering Musk’s “America Party” seems to literally exist only as a means to spite Donald Trump, it seems like those voters might be this party as the answer to their prayers.
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u/SadFeed63 12d ago
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